Yeah, it didn't take me a really long time to pick them. Actually when you said you wanted photographs I knew immediately in my mind that it was going to be this one and this one. For sure, right away. Um, so the four year old and the eight year old, I knew that was... those were two that I wanted. This picture I've always... needed somehow. And I... I love this picture. Uh, not only because I look so cute in it, ha ha ha, it's hard to believe that it's me, you know? Like it's hard to actually identify that this person is actually me. But what I love the most about this picture is how honestly frightened I look... like how honestly shy and scared. And it's so honest. And it's probably... was probably one of the most frightening and courageous things that I ever did, was walk down this wedding isle all by myself. And so it was probably to me, it sort of signifies maybe the first courageous thing I ever did. And it... it reminds me that I can do it. It reminds me that I can do anything.

University to me, or that time period in my life, is significant to me because in between this child and this women is teenage life, which was almost null and void to me. Like, a sort of useless really miserable time of my life where I didn't like the way I looked, I didn't like who I was, I didn't know who I was, I didn't know what I was doing, I mean I'm sure that's pretty universal whether you're gay or straight, but I think for a gay person it's probably paramount.

The way that I dress is... huge for me. And that's not even really a self-absorbed answer. It's really about what other people see. And so in university, or in that time period, you wouldn't catch me wearing colour, ever. It was black or grey... or army pants. Like, I would not wear a colour! I considered myself to be sort of above and sort of beyond or different than everybody else. Um, and there was a confidence to me, almost a cockiness to me, that I have no idea where it's gone. Cause I don't really have it, I don't feel it as much now as I did then.

It was somewhere in the centre, absolutely. I never really had a desire or a need to look like a man. Um, but I did, I think consciously, wanna look less like a girl... so there's something in the middle, um, where I would feel most comfortable... probably. And it's what I'm most attracted to as well, outwardly. I'm not attracted to extraordinarily feminine women, not attracted to very masculine men. The boyfriends that I would have had, would have been fairly feminine looking boys, right? So I was, so for myself, there was this real dichotomy. Like, even in this picture I have long hair, I always had long hair until I cut my hair, and that was very significant for me. And I wore makeup, and there was this real sort of, I had a very feminine body, I'm very feminine, but I think the dark colours... took me away from that a little bit - made me look harder.

Um, do you think that... because your subjects are gay and because you're coming from that perspective as well do you think that the need that you have for people to explore themselves and to understand themselves and not have anybody else define them but have themselves define themselves, is because we're gay? do you think that gay people think about themselves more than straight people do? Because I do. I think that, because I'm gay, I've almost been forced to think about myself way more than I would have if I were straight. I think that a lot, and that's not to say that straight people don't think about themselves, but those sort of very natural movements in a straight life are so taken for granted. And those very small movements are things that we have to consider so deeply. I mean going on a small vacation with my girlfriend and stopping in a small town and getting a room for a night in a motel is a scary event. Because I don't know if these people are freaked out by two women, I don't know if we should ruffle up the bed next to us, I don't know if anybody's going to have a problem with this.... when you're a straight couple that's a romantic thing to do. This is sort of an anxious sort of "Should we do this, should we not do this?" And so you're therefore sort of forced at that moment to think about yourself. "That's ok, I can do this".

This one, um, reminds me of what I was like when I was a kid, like an actual kid. Um, I love the fact that I, that my hair is messy, um, because as an adult... I'm so conscious of the way that I look. And I love this picture because I'm not conscious in this picture, and there's such a freedom to it. And the expression on my face is sort of like, "Yeah, whatever," you know? Um, and ah, even though I've got the pigtails and there's ribbons in my hair you know and whatever it is I still look like I could play baseball, which is probably what I was doing. Um, there's a carefree-ness to that face that I don't think I've... I've had as an adult.